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Sidney: Hello everyone and welcome to e I 30. Explain like I'm 30. I am your host, Sydnee Raskin, aka Sydnee Raz, all across the internet. Thank you so much for joining us. This is so much fun. I'm this just, this is the best. I love having a podcast. I need to tell you guys something. Last night I was walking around the fire temple of Legend of Zelda, and it is so incredibly frustrating.

There are rails that are spinning everywhere. There's fire that's flying everywhere. There's rockets and fans and carts that I'm just supposed to know where to go, and I realized about. Three hours into being in this temple that if you just look at the map and click around on the map, go up and down on your.

Deep pad. Then you can see where the rails go, you guys. So if anyone is playing the Legend of Zelda, tears of the Kingdom, and have gotten to the fire temple and need to figure out where all these rails go, just look at your map and click around the deep pad. Okay? Because it's super helpful and yes, I'm still lost in it, but that's beside the point.

Okay? So go have fun. All right. Just go have fun. And yeah, that's, I just, I, I had to get that off my chest because it's very, very, very frustrating. But today on the podcast, we have Coyote Peterson, host of Brave Wilderness. Truly, truly an incredible human and incredible guy to talk to you about all things wildlife, uh, video production, digital media.

I gave him some great shout outs about his thumbnails because I've been in the digital game for so long, and I'm like, Hey, listen, game, recognize game. These are great thumbnails, and I really appreciate them. He gave me some great. Amazing life hack tips that I cannot wait for you all to hear. Um, he kind of like alleviated my fear of brown reuses and, uh, black widow spiders, which is incredible.

And I'm just like, I'm so, I'm so excited for you all to listen to this conversation here, but we have to say about this stuff and man, it is such a fun episode. I can't wait for y'all to listen to it. So here we go. Coyote Peterson, the legend himself, unexplained like, I'm 30. Enjoy y'all.

Coyote Peterson, the legendary, brave Wilderness host. Welcome to the freaking podcast. This is so exciting

Coyote: for me. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to, uh, hopefully an adventurous conversation. Oh my

Sidney: gosh. Well, your life is full of adventure, so that's perfect. But before we get into it too, too much, I do have to let you know that I worked at a YouTube channel, uh, fine bros.

For like five years. Oh, okay. Cool. And one of, one of my first interactions with you ever was when you got stung by the, like, was it the bullet? Uh, the, one of your best popular videos ever? The Cow killer. The Cow Killer, right? Okay. Yeah, the cow killer. And so when I found out that you were coming on the podcast, the first thing I was like, you mean the guy that gets stung a

Coyote: lot?

Holy crap. Him.

Sidney: He's alive and he's okay. Thank God. So

Coyote: thank you. Like, yeah, it's, it's been a minute. We've been to the game for about a decade now, so it seems like

Sidney: forever ago. It's crazy to think about, but I mean, so for anyone that doesn't know, coyote Peterson, obviously hosts of Brave Wilderness. Amazing, uh, adventurer, uh, animal Expert has come on the podcast to tell me about what it's like to be you.

So I'll

Coyote: let you introduce yourself. Pretty good intro there. Uh, you know, I'm doing my best right now to continue traveling the world, to get up close and personal with a lot of our planet's most bizarre and oftentimes feared animals. I get dangerously close, closer than most people would ever. Their worst nightmares dream of getting.

And I try to teach you exactly what to do and not do if you have an encounter like that. And of course, put myself into a bunch of worst case scenarios that, that become highly entertaining, that we cleverly work in a little bit of education and conservation where applicable to try to do our part in telling stories about these animals, for these animals so that people understand them a bit better.

Sidney: Well, it's truly, truly important work because for me, as someone that sees something like cow killer, uh, bug, that's terrifying. And of course my, my internal, my internal, uh, animalistic. Responses stay away. Right. But then you're fine, ostensibly. And I guess that means that they're not as scary as my body makes them seem.

They are. Is that true?

Coyote: I, I mean, it's, it's true. I mean, you said the right thing and that like, try not to get close. That's always the general idea. You know, unfortunately humans do have run-ins and mishaps. I mean, great example, literally yesterday, 24 hours ago, I was literally wrapping on the production of an episode.

We just worked with a bee conservationist, honeybee conservationist here at Columbus, Ohio where we're based. Uh, we were waiting to get a call from him to actually do a bee rescue mission. Uh, and he was alerted by an apartment complex that discovered that it had a swarm of bees that had inhabited this wooden pillar.

And we went with this guy, his name is Luke, wonderful gentleman, wonderful bee conservationist. And we deconstructed this pole and pulled. Like 16, massive, two and a half to three foot long honeycombs out of this wooden pillar right next to a swimming pool in this like old folks retirement home community.

He and uh, right now my arm, my arm, you probably can't tell, but my arm is pretty swollen. I only took, oh my gosh, three stings yesterday. We did this, this was the crazy part, this is what I'm getting to, is that most people will be like, there's no way you could enter a swarm of bees. We're, we're not talking a few hundred.

He estimated Luke estimated 30,000 bees. Jesus, 3 0, 0, 0 0. And in the process without us wearing veils or bee suits, Each of us were only stung three times. So a total of six stings in three and a half hours of this honeybee extraction. You know, a large portion of the bees were saved. We put the combs into these boxes and then he takes them to his apiary, sort of reprograms them, and then they're put back out into a wild area.

So yeah, that was my day yesterday wrapping up just about right now. So,

Sidney: good Lord in heaven, man. All right. Yeah. So you have a very interesting life and, and we'll get to that. But you said that you walked in without any protection. I. To

Coyote: 30,000 bees. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, uh, I've done a lot of b stuff before and all bee interactions have been in the bee suit and we learned, gosh, learned a lot.

And Luke was like, look, this time of year be, are pretty docile now. Nobody should ever do what it is that we are doing. Remember Luke of, of Luke is a professional. I was like his assistant for the day. Uh, and it was nerve wracking to be like, all right, we're just gonna deconstruct their home and not get completely annihilated.

I mean, it was intense. That's why with that many Bess warming around us, I mean, how do you

Sidney: overcome that fear? What is your process? Cuz obviously, you know, your background is you've loved animals since you were a, you were a kid, you were really into video production. So why not combine the two game, recognize game good on your buddy, you know, uh, do the two things you love and, and just crush it.

Yeah. So you go from kid, I assume you got stung a few times and you're like, I survived, so I guess I'll try again. And was that kind of the process? It was like, you know, you went to school, you were like, ah, I don't know about this. Let's get a, did you get a degree in zoology or like some sort of like animal conservation work?

Like where do you go from kid enjoying video production and animals to walking into a swarm of 30,000 bees 10 years later after making a YouTube channel with your friends?

Coyote: Yeah. Like what is that? It's, it's pretty crazy cuz any good wildlife presenter throughout the course of history, right? And there's really only.

About two, two handfuls or so that you can really name prominently. Um, doing my best to try to become one of those two handfuls. Sure. Um, and, and you know, the, any good wildlife presenter will tell you that the name of the game is to not be bitten and stung by things. Cuz if you're getting molded by stuff all the time, well you're, you're not really good Doing a really good job presenting animals.

But then again, that is kind of the thing that people really wanna see the worst case scenario. So we. Kind of came across the extreme animal content idea after filming with a porcupine in Montana. Now, this is not a wild porcupine, it's a porcupine that was rescued at a wildlife sanctuary, and we were filming a little segment with it.

And, you know, when the handler brought the porcupine out, we're in a very, like, wild looking location. That was proper habitat. Yeah. And there were these leather gloves, like up to here, and I'm like, I, I don't have any gloves. I'm like, oh, it tries to go somewhere. Like, what should I do? They're like, well, we'll jump in and won't get it.

You know, you don't worry about it. I'm like, Well, how often do you get quilled? They're like, oh, without the, the gloves, like all the time. And all of a sudden the guy that I was working with started spouting off these different porcupine facts, and I'm like, this is different than stuff that I wrote out on the internet.

Yeah, this stuff is great. I'm like, well, what if we get me quilled and then I show people the right way to remove the quills because there are a lot of misnomers when it comes to what you should and shouldn't do. And he's like, well, if you wanna get quill by porcine, knock yourself out. So that was the first video that we ever did that turned into one of these more extreme experiment ideas.

And the funny thing about that video is that. As a person who has a degree in screenwriting, producing and directing, like there go, I understand the art and the mathematics and the chessboard setup of any good production. Yeah. And when we were filming the scene, the lighting was terrible. I mean, we had all sorts of noise issues.

It was a problematic scene in short. And we originally weren't even gonna release the episode. It was like on the cutting room floor. And at one point we had sort of run outta content in the first year of Brave Wilderness releasing content. We're like, let's go back to that porcupine thing. Maybe we can cut it into something.

Sure enough, lo and behold, the episode that almost never made it to the light of day ended up sparking this crazy run of. Intentionally showing you what to do and not do in these worst case scenarios.

Sidney: I mean, you're, you're teaching the world things that I, I've definitely even talking to you now. I want to know, and I'm actually looking at your videos now and is that the eight years ago, one of the best titles?

Yikes. Quilled by a porcupine. Yeah. Yeah.

Coyote: It's, gosh, yeah, it's, it's 40, it's, it's eight years old at this point.

Sidney: 45 million views. So you're saying that this was already two years into your channel and how, uh, so I come from a digital media background, you know, working in this space for over a decade, you know, that kind of thing.

Yeah. So it's very interesting to me to be like, oh, so you tried lots of other things before you got to let's just get hurt basically. Yeah. Like,

Coyote: yeah, we, we did, we spent three years. So there's a, uh, you know, I've seen on the internet a couple places, people have been like, uh, you know, different articles have been like, Discovery Communications launched Brave Wilderness in Coyote Peterson.

No, no, no, no, no, they didn't. Right, right. We were knocking on their doors trying to get TV shows, and they kept telling us no. Yeah. But we did eventually land a distribution deal on their digital network that they had for a while called Discovery Digital Networks. Yeah. This was like the heyday when all of a sudden it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

There's money to be made on YouTube. Every network was like, well, we better have one of those. Yeah. The problem is that none of these networks wanted to actually put money into paying creators to go out and make them work. So, What we did is we got the distribution deal with Discovery Digital Networks.

We raised, uh, a small amount of financing, $30,000 to be transparent about it. Sure. Um, privately to go out and they had asked for 12 episodes. But my business partner, mark and I, being the ambitious crazy kids that we were back then, we said, all right, cool. We'll get you 12, but you know what we're gonna do.

We're gonna do you one better. We went out, we produced 52 pieces of content on that budget because we knew that if we could get the momentum going, we didn't wanna be stuck in a position where we're like, oh wow. 12 episodes, you're gonna run through that quickly. Yeah. And if nobody had given us a TV show at that point, we were like, well, we could just keep feeding into this and begin to grow it.

So that Porcupine episode was one of the first 52 that got it we had ever created. And within the first two years of us launching a, a YouTube channel, that is where that came out. And originally we didn't even intend to have a YouTube channel, uh, and to discoveries, uh, support, they were the ones that convinced us to also have it because they needed to use it as a pipeline to feed into their closed circuit network that they had.

So, got it. You know, in the end it was all supposed to happen the way that it

Sidney: did. I mean, well, it, it's truly amazing because you, you said something really interesting, which was like, you're, you're basically teaching people things that they wouldn't learn otherwise. Right. And I think we kind of connect in the same way of that, because the way, what I tend to do on the internet is like teach people these life hacks that, you know, or tips and tricks, life hacks, you know, and other things that like, Ostensibly people are supposed to know, but no one ever thought about.

And, and it's just like, well, why didn't I think about using a can opener that way? That's weird. And now, when you even said how to remove a porcupine needle Correct. Or quill correctly, I was like, I thought you just pull it out. But that's obviously, that's a bad thing. I, I, I'll watch the video, but could you possibly give me a, a quick

Coyote: synopsis on how to do that?

Yeah. Well, here's the thing that I didn't know too, and this is what, you know, got my producer brain going in the field, is there's a porcupine in front of me and the handler's telling me about it. So when the quills release out of the porcupine, first of all, it's good to know that porcupines cannot shoot their quills, like their Looney tune cartoons.

Like, you're not gonna get boom, like a. M a landmine explosion of porcupine quills. They have something that are called guard hairs that sort of cover their rump. They're very hard to see, but they sort of en, en en comb all of the quills. And the second something brushes those guard hairs. It's like a nerve system that tells them to like, Whoop with their rump, right?

And that shoves the quills into the nose of a bear or a mountain lion or a coyote. And when those quills go in and they release from the body, they begin to swell. So like air gets pumped into them. What happens then is that they're also these microscopic barbs on the ends of the quills that kind of come out almost like a grappling hook.

And that's right. And when those get into the snout of an animal, the animal tries to like get them out. And what ends up happening is that they dig deeper and deeper and deeper. That's how bears and a number of these other large predators, they'll get an infection in their face. Once that happens, you can become susceptible to that infection very quickly.

And you die. Yeah. So same thing can happen to people's pets or humans. And if you take that quill and you just pull it out, you're getting a lot of those barbs wedged down in there. So over time, that can cause an infection and all sorts of other stuff you don't wanna have to deal with. But snipping the top of the quill, or I should say the back end of the quill releases that pressure.

And then when you turn it and twist the barbs, the way that they come out, they sort of then like wind back in and you can sort of,

Sidney: oh, park screw them out. So you kind of, so you kind of just like release the pressure basically. So there's like a Yeah, so it's like a straw almost. So the cools are like a straw.

Exactly. So basically like a hollow, they're hollow inside. Yeah. So they're a hollow inside. So they, once you release that pressure, it's like, oh, okay, I guess we're fine. You can just un unscrew them basically. Yeah. Does it

Coyote: still hurt when you unscrew them? Um, they're, yes. It, it does, and in all fairness, like my level of quilling in the grand scheme of like how badly you can get quilled versus what I got quilled, I'd say I was in like the two to three range.

If the top of the scale is 10, because first of all, I got quil by a juvenile porcupine. If you were working with an adult porcupine and that porcupine was really fearing for its life, like, A bear or a mountain lion, like one of those gives you a full on whack as hard as it can, the depth at which it can drive quills into something really, really, really bad.

Very painful. So, wow. Even what I experienced was extremely painful and I didn't even get the, the brunt of

Sidney: it. And you just, I mean, it looks like from the thumbnail, which beautiful thumbnails by the way, just, can I, oh, thanks. Can I, can I just say amazing thumbnail work? I really just gotta give props to you and your graphics team.

Really, really good. Good stuff. Um, but, um, you know, so you, you just, I, I guess we could just watch the video. Everyone should watch the video, but it looks like you just stuck your hand in there just to get that experience of like a brushing basically. Right. And, uh, yeah, that sounds terrible. Sorry.

Coyote: Yeah, I mean, again, the, the idea and, and you know, This being my first extreme animal experiment, I, I think if I'd gone back and done it later on in my career, we probably would've gone to the next level.

Sure. But at the time, I mean, I, I call me a rookie. I was like, I didn't know what was gonna happen. I gotta be honest, I was pretty nervous. Yeah. Even to go as far as I went. And, and while I'm a, a pretty tough guy, I think at the end of the day, nobody likes pain. And I've been through a lot of it since doing that.

So I was probably more nervous to do that, or some of the early stings, way more nervous than the things that I do now, cuz I've, I've reached a pain threshold from some of the things that I've gone through where it's like, well, If, if something's worse than that, it's really bad. And I, I mean, I've, I've pushed it at this point, so.

Sidney: Yeah. Well, that actually kind of gets into the next question that I want to ask, which is, are there any mistakes that you've made that you've maybe had to learn just one time that you're just like, oh man, like if I had known that when I was a rookie, this would've been so much easier. Or, you know, like for me it's, you know, after years and years and years of trying to make it on the internet, it's like, oh, well, you know, you could just do it this way.

And it's like, okay, captions are important for this reason, right? I mean mm-hmm. When you're out there in the field with all of these, Animals. Like what was, what, what is that mistake that you might have made or something that you would've hoped to know sooner,

Coyote: I guess? Great question. So I mean, in my line of work specifically, I guess there are two tiers of possible mistakes.

There are the production, yeah. Side of mistakes, and then there's the animal side of mistakes. And I guess there's also kind of one in the middle that's like the environmental mistakes. The majority of my mistakes have come from environmental induced accidents. Right? Like, uh, jumping and missing something falling off of something.

When we bring animals into the equation and it's a wild animal scenario that I'm gonna catch something or interact with something. I am operating on all 12 cylinders. Yeah. Like my focus is super sharp and I try not to make mistakes. That's not to say that I haven't, certainly I've been bitten by things accidentally.

Um, heal a Monster is one of the most painful experiences I've gone through, and that was an accidental bite. I've been bitten accidentally by snapping turtles multiple times. But the mistakes that have happened with animals that were intentional, um, a, a great one, which I could just use as my most painful experience I've gone through at this point was last year we produced an episode where I put my hand into a box with 202 0 0 200 angry yellow jackets.

Oh, sure. Right. And I was under the impression that like, maybe they wouldn't sting me that much. Our wildlife biologist, Mario was like, dude, like you're gonna get lit up. And I'm like, give him 50 50. He's like, oh, he's fell. He's like, I can't wait to see this one. Well, sure enough. The box that we built, the way that we had the trap door put in.

So my hand goes into this sleeve, trap door comes out, hand goes in the box. Yellow jackets are pissed. Like in, yeah. Matter of a second, they were covering me and stinging me and yellow jackets can sting again and again and again. But my hand got stuck in the box. I couldn't get it out because we couldn't get the trap door back in based on this Velcro piece.

And I'm freaking out. Like your body, oh my. Goes to the white out pain. Yeah. And I'm like yelling at Trent. I want camera guy. I'm like, I need help somebody put down the camera. And I took over. I took over a hundred stings in 10 seconds, but I tapped out after three seconds. Three seconds. I'm like, okay, cool.

Bad, bad idea. Bad idea. Wow. And seven seconds more. The swelling in my hand. The pain that I went through. Has now set a new threshold level. So people's number one question is like, coyote, what's the worst bit or sting you've ever had? Now I can lay that out as an individual biter sting. Yeah. An intentional or a non-intentional biter sting.

And then there's just stupidity. Yeah. Which is the yellow jacket box. And I'm telling you, that is the worst pain I've ever been through.

Sidney: So it was like a finger trap. It was like you couldn't get out. Basically. It was so, it was like the reverse pressure was actually making it tighter and then all of a sudden there had to be like a, a, a safety that you were just like, oh god.

Like

Coyote: my god.

Sidney: Slight it. Your dominant. Yeah. Was it your dominant hand where you just like screwed it?

Coyote: Was it It was the right hand. I'm right-handed. Yeah. Yeah. This, this hand was like a giant swollen hotdog for a week. I couldn't do anything. I was like a, like a seal flipper. Yeah. I would say it was horrible.

Sidney: You, I in meetings, you're in meetings. Like, guys, listen, I would love to talk right now, but I have, um, so much pain medication. Oh.

Coyote: I mean, I didn't for every, well, here's the thing. We did this in the middle of West Virginia. I had no access to pain medication. Oh. Like this true story. We literally went to this one tiny general store that's there at this little part of, of West Virginia by Seneca Rock.

I literally went inside, went straight to the Beer Corps, and got three forties s Literally sat down. Yes. Dude. Took three forties to the face. I was like, something has to stop the pain. Yeah. And I can tell you it did for about like 45 minutes. I was like, oh, cool. This will be all right. We went out hiking, looking for rattlesnakes.

Sure. I'll tell you what, by seven o'clock that night, I was in so much agony and, and was awake for 24 straight hours. It just, it was, it was

Sidney: horrible. Was that, I mean that, I mean, three 40 s was a great call. You can use Thoses in so many different ways. I hope it was Glass bottle, but you know, those don't say as cold old as you.

No wore

Coyote: cans. They didn't even have glass. They

Sidney: were they just forties and cans. It was like, congratulations, I've pour 40 hands. Just like amazing dude. Congrats on that. I mean, you know, so that, and, and that's so interesting because you're just walking around, you're still, you're still trying to get more content.

And you're just like, I guess we could just like walk around find some more rattles

Coyote: stakes. That's fine. Oh, we did, you know, and, and at that point, I mean we were no longer filming, but my wildlife biologist, Mario, he's like, well, we know there's timber rattles stakes in the area. Now I would never go out interacting with timber rattlesnakes after having three 40 s, but I say, I'll come on the hike with you guys cuz he was gonna look for em.

Get b roll, we'll get some photography. Um, and I think it was the hike up the mountain that just, you know, increasing my blood pressure and my arm just kept swelling. We're like, man, like I was like, I was like, guys, my arm getting bigger. We were taking pictures of it when we got to the top of the mountain, it was ridiculous how big my hand is like, you ever put on like a rubber medical glove and then like blown it up?

Sure, sure. Yeah. That's what my hand looked like. It was, it was bonkers.

Sidney: You're like, either my hand is really swollen or I've had too much to drink. I mean, it might be both, honestly. Like, I'm not a hundred percent

Coyote: sure pain for a few hours, but that was about it. And you had

Sidney: no medicine. I mean, I think that actually, you know, I, I'm sure this is the second most.

You know, ask question you get, which is just like, you know, you always have some sort of anti-inflammatory on hand or, or some sort of something. But the way you're looking at me now, you're like,

Coyote: nah, sometimes. No, no. I mean we, we do. So we, for for clarity, we always have epinephrine pens on location with us.

And the important thing to understand about EpiPens is that really the things that I get bitten and stung by the biggest threat I face is having an allergic reaction and going into anaphylactic shock. Sure, if that happens, boom, EpiPen, get me to the hospital, I'm probably going to be fine. But when it comes to managing the pain at this point, I've not been bitten by anything that I've had to get anti-venom or that's put me in the hospital.

And when it comes to pain medication, to be honest, I've really tried to push myself to be like, what? Amount of pain can I withstand? And, and I, you know, I'm not a masochist by any means, but the thing is, when you get to a certain level, like taking Advil or Tylenol, like it's not gonna do anything, right?

You know, it's not having any effect on what your body's physically going through. Like with the yellow jackets, for example, the neurotoxic properties of their venom are triggering your nerves in a way that like, this isn't like a stiff muscle, this is like your body is overloaded with venom. It doesn't know what to do.

And unless you're gonna go get prescribed something at the doctor, like a Vicodin or something that's really gonna take you and be like, all right, you feel nothing now. Nothing's gonna happen. But then again, in many places you couldn't go into the doctor and say to them, oh, I need something like Vicodin.

Because of, of, of different medication abuses these days, they'd be like, oh, are you just a guy that intentionally got hurt so you can get a Vicodin prescription? Which is not the case. So, you know, we, we don't usually go seek any sort of remedy for me other than to just keep getting clips to see what I'm going through, to put 'em on the back end of a video.

Sidney: Wow. I mean, do you ever, just like you're on this hike to find rattlesnakes, you're, you got three forties in you, which God bless. Mm-hmm. And, uh, and, and you're walking around trying to find rattles stakes. Your hand is huge. And you're just like, I guess I'm just gonna keep going and go to sleep and just wake up the next day and maybe it'll be down.

You know, like, but there has to be some sort of like, cuz in my head, all of all, all of you know the wonderful people that are in your profession, the animal conservationists. The animal experts always have something on hand that is like an anti. Animal you're around. But, which is an interesting thing to realize that in our conversations is like actually sometimes there isn't a solve for it.

You just have to kinda like let your body do the work. And that's,

Coyote: and that's, that's an almost, almost every case unless you're dealing with a, a venomous snake. I mean, venomous snakes are really. The only venomous animal other than a couple species in Australia, you know, bluing octopus, stone fish. Um, otherwise it's only snakes that people create anti-venoms for.

Um, you know, United States. United States wise, like the only thing that we have really that's venomous and dangerous are. A, a handful of snake species. There are brom recluse and black widow spiders uhhuh. But your odds of being bitten by one of those and having a reaction that you're gonna need some sort of medication are, are very, very rare.

And there's a lot of misconceptions when it comes to spider bites. Yeah. And the dangerous spiders that live in the United States. But with that said, it is all about how an individual's body reacts to a foreign substance. Yeah. Um, you know, knock on wood, I'm lucky that I also don't really get infections from things.

I mean, I've been bitten by snapping turtles, alligators clot up by things and I'd be like, oh man. Pardon my fingers hanging off. Well, I'm just gonna keep on going with filming this episode. Oh, lemme just wrap it up with something. There's swamp mud and stuff in it, and it's kind of bonkers. You know, my mom jokes with me all the time.

She's like, you should donate some of like your. Blood so they could research it to see if you have some special properties that yeah, have made you immune to all these random things. But that's wild, which I don't think is the case. But you know, again, my body, I, I must thankfully have really strong antibodies in a good immune system to bring me back very quickly from any of these experiences.

I

Sidney: mean, it's, it's incredible. It's funny that you mentioned brown recluse and black widows. Uh, both spiders I have in my house and,

Coyote: um Oh, like as pets or like, they're just in there? No, no.

Sidney: Well, no, they have their own little, uh, hangouts underneath my house and around my house and everything. Uh, Southern got the combo pack.

Yeah, I'm in Southern California, so I'm in Southern California in Los Angeles. So all of the fun spiders are here, it feels like. Mm-hmm. Obviously we don't have the huge ones that you see in other, uh, territories and countries and continents, but, um, I have had a crippling fear of spiders since I was a kid, and then once I moved into this house, I kept seeing them everywhere and I was just like, I can't get away from these guys.

Like they're these brown spiders that kind of look like black widows, but they're, they have this in same insignia and they're brown, and then there's the black widow. Obviously everyone knows what that one looks like. Mm-hmm. Which is just like a cartoonish type of spider. When you see a shadow of a black widow, it's like, oh, that's what a cartoon spider is.

Yeah. And then you, you know, it's, it's crazy. And then you have, you know, the brown recluse, which, you know, sometimes pop around, but again, they say to themselves, and then you got the trap door spider. So I, I, so once I moved into this house, I kind of like accepted the spiders and started learning about them.

And one of the things that I learned was really like every body's different with a reaction to a spider bite. Yeah. You can get bitten by, And, and most of the time spiders aren't gonna bite you. Mm-hmm. They're, they don't care that you're there really, unless you like literally poke them. Yeah. And like, and you know, they're there, they're fine.

And so I started learning about all this stuff and it was just such an interesting thing. Every time I would read something it would be like, you know, bites may vary. And that's what you're saying your body does. Like you are on the, the good may vary side for literally everything.

Coyote: So, so far so good.

Which I feel very happy about. What? But when it comes to the two spider species you're talking about the widow and the recluse. The thing is, I mean, you think about the recluse, it's given its name because that spider tries to stay out of the way of humans. And it took us years before we finally found a brahm recluse and were able to film with one.

And we did an episode where I freehand it. They're so small. Yeah. They have tiny things like for you to get bitten by a Bram recluse. It's literally gonna bite you, like in between your fingers or the soft part of your ankle or in between your toes or the, yeah. Soft top of your foot. And again, they're not out there looking for humans.

Bites happen when somebody. Accidentally rolls over onto a spider or grabs onto a spider, and that spider's like, oh no, I'm gonna get squished right now. I'm gonna bite you. Right. Because it's a last resort defense,

Sidney: you know? Right. Yeah. I mean, and that's kind of, so I have a nine month old daughter now and uh, almost 10 months old.

Wow. Mm-hmm. And the thing that I'm worried about is not necessarily the spider biting her, but it's actually her grabbing onto the spider, thinking that it's like, oh, what does this do? And then getting bit by a black widow and it's just like, yeah, oh God. Like what do I do? Like, I don't know what to do.

Well,

Coyote: for, for, for your own piece of mind. Now I can't give you, uh, exact advice on what to do, cuz you know anybody with a child, you wanna make sure that child's safe. But one thing to know about black widows is that black widows are not very nomadic. Like when a black widow finds a nice quiet area that it feels, it's built to good web and it's catching food, that's what that spider's goal is.

Their entire survival plan is, Hang on a web, let food come to me eventually, mate, eat my mate, lay my eggs. Repeat. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So like black widows very rarely are seen crawling around unless you go and disturb the black widow, destroy its web and you don't get the spider. And then the spider's like, well, I rent my house down, I gotta go find somewhere else to put it now.

Right, right. So, you know, peace of mind if you're living in Southern California that both of those species, you are unlikely to have a negative run-in with. But if it's something that it, it unnerves you, you wanna get rid of them, certainly contacting a local, um, uh, extermination expert in your area, they'll be able to come out.

And a lot of times these, these exterminators nowadays are actually pretty conservation centric. Yeah. And they'll look at your situation, they'll say, look, you've got a spider. Like if you have an infestation of brown relu, It's fair to say, look, you, you, you may wanna get rid of them. Yeah. But if you see one or two spiders, they're probably gonna say, look, what they're really doing is eating the things that you really don't want in your house.

You know? Right. Exactly. Uh, different, uh, uh, mirror, pod and, uh, arachni species and a lot of the pest insects that really actually do go after human blood.

Sidney: Exactly. And I think that's another interesting point, and something that I've learned is like how important it is to actually see these spiders around the house to be like, oh, thanks for keeping everyone else out, guys.

Like, yeah. Yeah. You know, and also the size of a female black widow is so much bigger than a male black widow. Mm-hmm. It is crazy. And the female is the

Coyote: one I saw. The male, the males won't bite you like you'd, I, you can never say never, but a male black widow spider is very unlikely to ever be able to penetrate your skin with its Fs.

Sidney: I mean, that's incredible. Yeah. Uh, so I, I do have to ask is, is there like a certain like life hack that you've learned in your experience that has made your life easier as this sort of like, you know, production and animal conservationist? Is there like something where you're like, oh, like that? When I learned that moment in that life hack, I was like, okay, this is the rest of my life.

Like, I am going to use this forever

Coyote: now. Mm. Good question. I would say not, not so much a life hack as much as I, I think what I've learned over the years is I used to be so rigid in my producer. Shoes and hat. Yep. Yep. That I would get out in the field and be thinking too much about how things were going to come together in post-production.

Right. Well, I'm still very cognizant of that. It used to, I think, limit my ability to just outwardly have fun and flow with a moment versus being worried about, am I getting across the right facts? Yeah. Am I delivering this in a cadence that's gonna work well for post-production versus just going out there and doing it?

So I would say our productions have become a lot more free flowing. I think the advancements in technology have also helped that. But yeah, my hack in general centered around my work is to just go out there and have fun doing what we're doing. And the audience is going to recognize that through the performance Wow.

And through the

Sidney: screen. That is such a huge and incredible tip to take into any sort of creative content production. Because I think even, even sitting here with you as, as someone that wants to get the right thing and make sure that the right thing is said is that, that's not necessarily what I'm here to do.

Right. What I'm here to do, mm-hmm. Is have an experience with a new person, talk about that thing, even make sure that it is, it is wild and amazing for us, and then everyone else gets to experience that. And I think that is really such an amazing point of view to have. And thanks truly. Probably, probably the greatest like content production hack I've ever heard.

So yeah,

Coyote: thank you for that. And for anybody that does production stuff, you know, I mean, I I, we have a, a number of different projects in development right now and I was, I was just on a pitch yesterday with the team that I'm working with and you know, I think there's sometimes also a misconception or there has been in the past throughout the, we'll just call it the Hollywood industry that anybody who's considered talent is, yeah, talent and only talent.

I was a behind the camera person and a writer and a, a chessboard setter of production way before I was ever somebody who was in front of the camera, never really wanted to be in front of the camera, but just was like, cool, well I think I could do what this is. And in that sense, getting to my point, I was talking with this team yesterday.

I said, look, Don't just look at me as the guy who's Coyote Peterson and a talent utilize me for the other things that I really like to do. You know, love being at pitch meetings. Yeah. Love working together with the creative team to say, what if we did this? What if we did that? If we did that instead of this, how would it become that over there?

And Exactly. I, I think if more talent spent the time really working in that behind the scenes world, which not to say that a lot of them don't, cause I know that they do. Yeah. But the more that you do do that, the better you're going to become at your craft, which is a sense what got me to that, that life hack moment of my job, which is go out and have fun and understand that like if you're getting the truly authentic moments on camera and you've got the right post-production team, and I know editing because I was the editor on Brave Wilderness videos for the first two years.

Fortunate enough not to have an editing team, but I know that if I bring them the right ingredients and I've got the good cooks and the kitchen, they're going to make a fantastic meal. And that's what we've learned to do.

Sidney: I mean, and it's absolutely true. You know, you do your best and I think it also gives you a lot more like empathy for the work that they're doing.

Right? You're like, mm-hmm. Oh, I know that it takes x amount of time to edit this down. Or I know that it's going to be like, like when I said like, shout out your graphics team for your thumbnails, cuz I was like, man, that's work. Like that is good work that y'all are doing over there. Thank you. I'll let them know.

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How dangerous would it be to be bit by, okay.

Coyote: Right. But I didn't want to call, well, probably the God answer those questions.

Sidney: I know. Well, that's what I figured. I mean, during our conversations it's like, man, this guy's been bitten by a lot of fucking bugs. Um, so can I curse on this podcast? It's mine. Who knows?

Yeah. Um, and so basically I wanted to come at this with like, alright, well I can ask you like, how dangerous is it? Tick abit by an alligator, kind of a scary animal. We know kind of how dangerous that is. But I wanted to see what it would be like to be bitten by things that not necessarily you think about getting bit by.

Right. So, mm-hmm. Uh, the first one, which actually I think I have been, been bitten by this one. So how dangerous would it be to be bitten by a house cat? Now there are different types of house cats, obviously many different, right? But a general, when you think about house, house cat, you know, how, how dangerous is that to get bitten by a house cat?

Coyote: Well, okay, that's a good question. So it depends. I. Couple of things. I'll break this down for you as best I can and as short of an answer as I can. Sure. Uh, a lot of it's probably going to depend on how old the cat is. Oh, what type of bacteria could be in the cat's mouth and where that cat actually bites you.

Now, just like any bites and stings, everybody's body's going to react differently. So someone could get bitten by a cat and all of a sudden be like super susceptible to infections and get an infection. Right. You gotta think about if it's a much older cat and it's got some teeth falling out and it's like mouth is a little rotty and it's kind of like a little wild.

Yeah. Could have a lot of bacteria in there and once that gets into your system could become really problematic. But a very young cat, a clean kitten that's got some really sharp teeth, you know, playing around pops a couple holes in you with its, its canines. You're probably gonna be okay. Little soap and water, I think you're gonna be all right.

But you know, if it bites you in the neck and like Right. Gets into a vein or something like, yeah, that might be a little bit more risky. All right,

Sidney: so kind of, I mean, this, I, I don't, I don't wanna say this, but this, that kind of hops into one of our next animals, which was a little bit lower down the list, but it feels right to ask now.

So humans, how humans, how bad is it, right? Because you said, you said how, you know, the, depending on the bacteria in their mouth, depending on the, all of this stuff, I feel like humans are kind of the same thing, right? Like if you get bitten by a human, It really just depends on how gross the human is. Yeah.

Well,

Coyote: right before I answer that question, you wanna know something kind of crazy. I've actually had people recognize me in public before and ask if they can take a picture of them pretending to bite me. And I usually always say yes, but there is a little bit of edgy nerviness to that because I'm like, right, I don't know you.

And like, what if you really are just like, I'm gonna do something crazy and really take a chunk out of you. Fortunately that's not happened, but, um, a human bite, yes, I think also could be problematic when it comes to bacteria being in somebody's mouth. So if you're bit by somebody that I don't know, just, uh, ate some steak and has some meat particles in there that maybe could get in there, could do something that a doctor could probably tell you differently and be like, I, no, a human bite would be fine, but it's gonna be a bacterial level coming out of a human's mouth that could maybe become problematic because normally, I mean, humans don't have anything.

Naturally in their saliva, that would be considered a toxin to another human, I don't believe.

Sidney: Right. So there's no anti-venom for humans because we don't have any No, not necessarily.

Coyote: No. Unless you're bitten by a vampire, in which case you're going to die and then just turn into a vampire and then you're immortal, so, right.

Yeah. Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet.

Sidney: Right. And as much as, um, you know, as much as Wesley Snipes blade made it seem like there is no anti-venom for vampires. We know this, this is a known fact. Yeah. This is a known thing. Well, that's actually, uh, goes into the next question, which is, uh, blood sucking animal, which is a tick, right?

Mm-hmm. I, you know, you walk around the woods from back east where I'm from in Virginia. You walk around, maybe even the woods around here, you get some ticks on you. How dangerous is it to have, let's say, a few ticks in your groin area? Because I feel like that's always where you accidentally find them, and it's awful.

How dangerous is that to have ticks on

Coyote: you? Believe it or not, ticks are pretty darn dangerous. And when you're talking about like spiders versus ticks, I would say you've got a better chance of getting bitten by a tick and transmitting something like Lyme disease. Then you do a being bitten by a venomous spider like a widow or a recluse and having some sort of horrible allergic reaction.

Wow. Um, I've been bitten by ticks multiple times. We've tried to produce. Bitten by tick's intentionally. Video. We failed in all three attempts. Wow. But last year in South Africa, I was bitten by a very small tick and I didn't realize it. And I got, um, a tick, what's called tick bite fever. Uh, I got in my wildlife biologist also got it.

The tick had embedded in the back of my leg. I didn't see it. And I got out of the shower one day and I was drying off and the towel snagged on the back of my leg and ripped off. What was a scab? The tick was inside and it was, there was a hole in my leg. Oh, I kid you not, it was the grossest thing, which obviously no camera crew and nobody to see it.

But yeah, there was like a, there were, and I have a massive scar on the back of my leg from a tick. I had to get medication. Oh my gosh. Um, and I was, I was pretty sick from it. But it's not something like Lyme disease, but it can be, it can put people into the hospital. So, In a nutshell, yes, a tick bite can be very, very dangerous very quickly, but that's only if the tick gets on you embeds and feeds for a considerable amount of time.

If you just see a tick on you, no problem. Get it off. If you've got a tick that is just, just embedded, you can pull it out with a pair of tweezers. You want to clamp down relatively close to where the the bite site is and just gently pull it out. But if you see that the tick is engorged with your blood, that means there's saliva between the tick and your body and your fluids going back and forth.

That's when you could be in some trouble.

Sidney: Oof. Yeah. Well, that's actually interesting too, because you know, you always hear these sort of like what to do when kind of thing, but mm-hmm. When a tick embeds in you and you pull it out, the, the Lyme disease is still on you. Right. Is the head still in you when you pull out the tick?

Is

Coyote: that, is that right? Well a, again, if a medical professional would give the best advice here and that like, alright, let's say worst case scenario, you went out camping for a weekend with your friends, you weren't showering. All of a sudden you get home, it's Sunday night, you go get in the bathroom, you're like, oh my gosh, the inside of my leg, there's a tick, it's swollen.

At that point, I would probably say, call your primary care physician because wow, it's already there. Like what you can actually do by squeezing that tick is cause it to regurgitate some of its of the blood and its bodily fluids into you. So in that instance, if you're like, man, it's really in there, cuz you're right, you could rip it out and you could pull off the head.

You're gonna get liquids in you. But the head could then also cause an infection, right? So in an instance like that, Getting yourself to medical, a medical facility probably the best first play because you know they're gonna have the tools to do it properly versus you being like, eh, I'm just gonna pull it out.

Yeah. Because I pulled them out before without them being engorged. I've never had a tick on me. That was all the way engorged that I saw. Like the one where I got the, the tick bite fever, that sucker crawled into my leg and was living in there. Yeah. Like it died in my leg. It was crazy. Oh my gosh.

Sidney: Like, that's insane.

Yeah. That's like, it

Coyote: was like a kamikaze tick.

Sidney: Yeah. That was like, that sounds like something out of the mummy, like the, the scarab that crawled around like, no, thank you

Coyote: dude. It was, it was, it was like out of a horror film. I, I'm not even kidding. Like it was gross. I, I took pictures of it and showed 'em to all I buddy in my office.

They're like, oh my God, what is happening there? There was like a massive hole that it rotted in my leg. It was all pussy and su. That's terrible, dude. Put

Sidney: that on the community tab. Put that on Twitter. It'll be the best piece of content you ever, oh my God. The algo's gonna love

Coyote: it. Yeah, well, we, we've tried now, so there are different tick species, right?

So there are certain species that we know do not transmit diseases that could be considered really dangerous to humans. And then the tick episode that we tried to produce in the past, we did try this three times. It just doesn't work. We went out, I went into a field, got ticks all over my body. We found the ticks, and then we placed them and tried to pin them down with bottle caps.

So we took bottle caps, poked holes, and then used medical tapes to keep them on my arm to see like, all right, in 48 hours, 24, 48 hours, will they bite and hold on. I think the problem is that like my body generates too much heat. Uhhuh and the ticks are just constantly trying to get out, so none of them would actually bite me, so Wow.

At some point, hopefully I'll get bitten by a tick. It'll be on me and we can make a video showing you the right way to remove it. Hopefully.

Sidney: Hopefully one day, one of the like probably the most terrifying thing in the world to some people will happen to you on film and then you're, man, that's gonna be so good.

Oh my god.

Coyote: It's like well's. Good. Well, it's good. It's good timeliness cuz we're talking about this. We literally just had an episode that came out this past weekend, which was a very hodgepodge, low budget produced episode, uh, where I got eaten alive by forest leeches in Australia. I end up getting like 20 of them on my legs by walking barefoot around this pond and, you know, used it I Sure.

To show you how to properly get leeches off of you. So, you know, bloodsucking animals. It's that, that time of year. I

Sidney: see that one actually up here on YouTube, but I can't wait to watch that one. Yeah. So that, it's, it's funny because, I mean, Australia's, we could go on and on about a Australian, I would love for you to debunk some myths about Austral and how terrifying Australia wildlife is.

Mm-hmm. But c come on again and I'll ask you next time, but, all right, so next we'll have next a whole Australia segment, please. The next, uh, animal I have here is a spotted hyena. Now everyone knows hyenas. Everyone thinks they're giggly and laughy, but are you, are they also kind of the same vein as house cats and humans, where it's like, it really just depends on the bacteria in their mouths.

Coyote: Hyenas are dangerous. Uh, I would rank them as one of the most dangerous animals in Africa, primarily because they're fearless, uh, and they're scavengers at their finest, which means like they'll take any opportunity for a meal. It's not to say a lot of people get attacked by hyenas, but hyenas are scary.

And because they eat a lot of dent things, they definitely have bacterias of who knows what sort in their mouth. Now, not only if you were bitten by a hyena, are you gonna be in major catastrophic trouble because they have an insanely powerful bite force. So that bite is going to do insane damage and it's gonna crush bone.

But the bacteria that's probably in their mouths is also definitely gonna send you on your way to the hospital. Oh

Sidney: God, that is, that, that, I mean, thinking about the snapping turtles and all of these, all of these amazing animals that have such a powerful bite that you don't even think about because we're so used to the amount of pressure that humans have, right?

We're like, we're like, that's, that's really what it is when you think about like, oh, what a bite is. Um, all right, well, number five, and this was technically number four, but number five. One of the ones that I looked up before this recording, and it was honestly kind of terrifying to do so for me, which was the Brazilian wandering spider.

Now, this guy looks huge. Yeah. How have you been bitten by this spider already? No.

Coyote: No, no, no, no. Brazilian wandering spider and the Sydney funnel web spider are arguably the two most dangerous spiders on the planet. Now, the Sydney Funnel web spider, if you're forbid by a mail, it will kill you without an anti-venom.

It's a guaranteed death sentence. The Brazilian wandering spider, I don't think will kill you, but it will put you into a world of pain. Yeah, Brazilian wandering spider's, really bad. Oh, and there, my gosh, a number of different wandering spider species. The Brazilian wandering spider specifically. Now, I don't know this for a fact, and again, I've never been bitten, but I heard and have read multiple places that if you're bitten by a Brazilian watering spider, it gives you a nonstop gentleman's excitement.

Scientifically known as, oh no. An erection for a very long time. Oh, no. Yeah. I don't know if that's just a, a, a, a a rumor or what it is, but I've read that so multiple places. So

Sidney: it's, you're an excruciating pain, but from outside it looks like you're an excruciating

Coyote: pleasure. Is that what you're saying to me right now?

I've never been there myself, but that is what I have read. Yes. That's, and I think that's probably not the, the one to test out. You know, if you're love be that life is suffering, don't get bitten by a wandering spider, it ain't gonna fix it. That has to be like one

Sidney: of the craziest experiences. If it's true to just be like in I was bitten by a wandering spider.

Or you might not even know that. I mean, they looked huge, but you might not even know it. Yeah, they're huge. And you might not know it, but you have what again, what scientists refer to as an erection, so everyone's like, oh sure. You were bitten by a spider. Right. No, no. Game overt. Yeah. Right. You wanted to get bitten by the spider uhhuh.

Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for playing that game with us. I really appreciate it. My pleasure. I kind of, uh, I mean I really would love to go into more, um, you know, it depends on the back. It's really interesting to think about how much bacteria it kind of goes into and mm-hmm. Um, you know, how scary and dangerous these creatures actually are.

Cuz, and, and we can a little bit more, but you know, before, unless you go, I mean, is there any sort of like, Animal that people fear that really, you know, there, there shouldn't, there shouldn't be that much fear around, you know, like when I think about an alligator or, you know, some, some big animal, you know, that, that humans are trained to be afraid of.

And that's actually not the case. Are they not, they're not a scary animal.

Coyote: I mean, there's really no animal on the planet that we should be afraid of. Animal and human conflict happens based on being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and oftentimes it is humans making the mistake of not being aware of their environment.

So you just used alligators as an example. Alligators are opportunistic and a big alligator is not going to go out of its way to try to attack a human. But if a human of any size or walking a dog is going to be along the edge of the water at sunrise or near sunset when alligators are primarily doing their hunting.

They're going to mistake any opportunity for food as food. They're not going outta their way to be like, you know what? I'm gonna go after that human today. Uh, it's the same thing with snakes, same thing with sharks, same thing with spiders. You know, I always like to joke that there's everything with an s people are usually afraid of.

Um, oh, that's interesting. As long as you're really in tune with your environment, you're paying attention to signs that are posted by wildlife officials. Like if you go to a beach and they're like, Hey, there's been sharks spotted in this area. Pay attention to it. Be aware that yes, there could be sharks here.

Know what species of sharks may be in that area. People always just assume because of, you know the movie Jaws, the great white sharks are the most dangerous shark that's out there. That's not true. Yeah, bull sharks are far more dangerous than great white sharks because bull sharks like to navigate in murky water.

They can also migrate between fresh water and salt water. They spend a lot of time at estuaries, which is a MA mix of both. Estuaries have very cloudy water, and these sharks are hunting based on using their sensory organs on the front of their face to pick up movement in the water. So when a shark comes in and it sees something splash around, it's like, that might be something hurt.

That might be something I could eat. Most people are bitten by bull sharks in shallow murky water. So, oh, again, point being, pay attention to your environment, make smart choices, and you have a really good chance of avoiding any negative animal interactions. Wow.

Sidney: But you chase them, so, so that

Coyote: that is absolutely I do.

Mm-hmm. I try to get myself in those situations mostly, well, I don't try to get myself in that situation with bull sharks, but yeah, mostly get myself into situations so I could be like, here's the worst case. But even me, when you look at some of the things I've gone through with the bites and stings, remember I'm physically taking that animal and showing you its ability.

Yeah. If given the chance that animal's just going to escape, like the tarantula hawk, the giant terrifying looking one. If I had taken that tarantula hawk and just taken it out of the container and put it on my arm and removed the container, it would've looked to me and been like, see ya. And would've been gone.

I mean, had no reason to sting me. I got stung cuz I'm holding it and it's like, let go of me. You know? Right. Yeah. So again, an animal uses its abilities as a defense to escape possible dim.

Sidney: I love that. I love I love that. I love that. Once you realize that animals don't really care about us, it's when they think they're gonna get eaten is when they attack you.

Coyote: Like, and that's like, they want nothing to do with us.

Sidney: Yeah. They just like, and like, it's, it's, it's so interesting to think about, you know, animals in such, like, a, an obvious way is like, like even, even humans, right? If you annoy a human and you get them to the point where the animal is like, Hey, stop annoying me.

Like, what are you doing, man? They'll, they will hurt you. Yeah. That's what it is. Mm-hmm. And you do that. I mean, coyote Peterson does that for a living, which

Coyote: is beautiful. Yeah. I mean, think about like, when you were growing up, if you had siblings, like you tease your sibling enough or you, you, you know, then they come and they, they pinch you.

They do something like that, right? It's, it's a leave me alone tactic. I mean, one of my favorite things that I always think is hilarious when I see people out of backyard picks and you've got yellow jackets or hornets or bumblebees that come flying around and people are doing this. And you're like, all you're doing is looking like a threat to this thing.

It's being drawn in because you're eating something with syrup or something of sugary uh, context. That this thing is like, that looks like a meal to me. Cuz they're coming in to pollinate, they're coming in for sugars, right? So we're drawing them in and then we're getting mad and flailing at them and then they feel they gotta be defensive, you know?

Sidney: That's so incredible. I mean, that actually I've never actually been bitten or I've never been stung by a bee. And I think I would remember if I had, but that's true. I'm, when, whenever I see someone out at a picnic, now I'm gonna tell them like, listen, stop swatting, because all you're doing is making them more angry and like even swatting them away from the food, it's like, just pick up the food.

They'll probably move,

Coyote: right? Yeah. Oh my God. Or, you know what I tell people to do? I tell people, just take a little bit of what you got and put it over in another area. Like just let them, let the insects come in and have a little bit share. You know, we were taught it when we were little kids. Just share with them.

They're gonna, they'll be more prone to going to an area where they can get what this is that's not yours, cuz they don't really wanna be around you, but they're drawn in by the pheromones, so you know, oh, make a little, make a little yellow jacket or, or be buffet line off to the side and maybe you'll keep 'em away from your picnic.

I don't know, maybe that'll work.

Sidney: Wow. I mean, I mean, I got another question's like, how far away do you put it? But I mean, Now I'm, if, listen, I will credit you, but I probably will make that video next, like two or three days. Be like, Hey, just, just,

Coyote: just share. Just share with the bees. You should, yeah. Share with the bees.

Yeah. That's incredible. Share with the burn. Share with the bees. You know, I mean, share. Share your food. It's not like we need all of the bottle of ketchup, you know? Right. For some reason, insects love ketchup. Take some squirt on napkin and go put it over to the side. Like I'm sure they'll go there and eat it.

You know, they'll have a great time. Why they love ketchup, but they do.

Sidney: Oh my gosh. Well, uh, again, you know, do you have any big projects coming up that you want to promote? Do you have anything you want to, uh, shout out before we let you

Coyote: go? Uh, sure. Yeah, I mean, I got a bunch of projects in the works that I, I can't spill the beans on yet, but we got big stuff happening this year.

And the television realm, the video game realm, the animation realm, um, but for anybody that wants to keep up with our day-to-day adventures on Brave Wilderness, uh, we are releasing content every single Saturday on our YouTube channel. And of course, if you want to follow any of our crazy escapades at Brave Wilderness and at Coyote Peterson is where you can find us on all social media accounts.

Sidney: Spoken like a true professional. Thank you so much. I mean, I was gonna ask you about the, uh, any last words or final tips, but you've given so many amazing ones. I'm gonna take that picnic one and use it for the rest of my life. Coyote Peterson, thank you so much for being on the podcast and I could not wait to talk to you again soon, buddy.

Thanks

Coyote: for having me. I would love to come back anytime. We gotta do that entire episode on Australia. Trust me, I got some whoppers. I'll, I'll,

Sidney: I'll have people reach out to you and be like, Hey, let's go to Australia together and just go wild.

Coyote: Let me, I was just there for five weeks, so Love Australia, love talking about it, love going there.

So yeah, you let me know. I'm all in. Cool man. We'll talk

Sidney: soon.

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